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[lily mccarthy]

L I L Y Yeah, it gets to a point where I'm just totally drained. Exhaustion doesn't help either. It's crazy how you two are twins but so different as people. I mean, it makes sense as you're actually different people, but I feel like a twin cliche is a twin cliche!

[theo lovett]

t h e o . Does Cleo give you space? We were a lot more similar as kids, but y'know, ying and yang! I guess he didn't talk a lot so I'd fill the silence, then he didn't feel like he had to talk a lot, so I'd fill the silence, etc. etc.

[lily mccarthy]

L I L Y Yeah when I physically lock myself in my room! Ah, a vicious cycle. Joey and I are really similar, but I think it's because I always wanted to be him when I grew him.

[theo lovett]

t h e o . Hahaha hiding! That's fair, I forget people need to recharge sometimes, I'm sure she's the same. Different with an older brother! What's he like? Well, he's like you, duh, you just said.

[lily mccarthy]

L I L Y You probably need to recharge too and you don't even realize it! Total idolization, to the point that I was probably annoying! He's definitely more mellow, but yeah, really similar. I also have like, 400 less tattoos.

[theo lovett]

t h e o . Gives me time to save up conversation topics for the second you emerge. He seems very cool. Is he protective over you?

[lily mccarthy]

L I L Y Are you writing flashcards? Tape them to my door, I'll have to prepare. He is cool! And down to earth, he reads in interviews how he is in real life for the most part, but fans just take it and run so many directions. Sometimes I get tagged in comments on a fan account of papparazi pictures of us like 'omg new love interest?' and then rabid fans freak out and correct them, it's weird. Yeah, between him and Zac I have like a brick wall in front of me sometimes. More industry stuff though, they don't want me getting screwed.

[theo lovett]

t h e o . We'll trial it! You're so cute, gushing about him like this. That is layers and layers of weirdness. It must be so good to have people who know the industry so well to back you.

[lily mccarthy]

L I L Y I'll write some too, I'll have infinite amounts of time on my hands! The OG #1 fan. And god, I know right? That's the creepiest thing that's happened to me, that and people trying to ask me to do things to get to him. It's lucky, people get so fucked by it.

[theo lovett]

t h e o . How obvious is it when people are just using you to get to him? It seems like the most brutal industry.

[lily mccarthy]

L I L Y Pretty obvious, at this point. I think it took us all a minute at the beginning to figure it out but at this point you assume the worst and hope for the best. You have to love it to do it, I think that's a lot of things though.

[theo lovett]

t h e o . That sucks, imagine how many people you might have been friends with if they hadn't gone and ruined it by gunning for your brother! Yeah, that's true.

[lily mccarthy]

L I L Y If that was their intention in the end, short or long game, probably wouldn't have been a great friend to begin with! Luckily to have you Alaskans around. And you truly do the good work here!

[theo lovett]

t h e o . You never know, friends come from unexpected places. Like Alaska! Did you know that Cleo was at the same hospital my brother and I were at after the accident? At like the same time, probably? That really fucks with me to think about. Imagine if you were there too!

[lily mccarthy]

L I L Y Wow, how very big world but small world. You could have passed each other in the hall and never known! I told your brother I'd have to go visit when we can prison break out of here, for all of your sake. Pay homage to your homeland.